Did the well-timed little gust of wind remind anyone else of the shooting stars of past episodes? |
Eeyup. I really enjoyed this episode, and there really wasn't much I can fault it on. Although I'm not generally a big fan of romantic storylines – the show is called Friendship is Magic, after all – Big Mac's blossoming relationship with Sugar Belle has produced some nice episodes. I'm not sure anyone would have seen this pairing coming back in Season 5, but it has given us some good moments. Most notably in Season 8's "The Break Up Break Down", which was referenced this time around.
It wasn't the only one, either. This was a fairly callback-heavy episode, with nods and winks going right back to the start of S2 and Discord's chocolate rain. Happily, none of them got in the way of the plot, which I appreciated. Most were simply incidental and could have been skipped – but not the callback to the events of "The Perfect Pear" near the end. I doubt anyone minded being reminded of such a fine episode, and it was directly relevant to this story, too.
Mrs Cake has absolutely had enough of Discord's horseapples |
The main storyline allowed Peter New to say (a bit) more than "Eeyup" and "Eenope", which was nice, though he seemed to be delivering some of the lines early on extremely slowly even for Big McIntosh. Sugar Belle remains a slightly bland character with considerably less screen presence than Big Mac, but she nevertheless came across as the sweet, gentle mare she is. Surprisingly determined at times, too, as we saw even back in her debut episode.
Slightly surprisingly for an episode so close to the end of the series, "The Big Mac Question" was almost devoid of the Mane Six, with only Applejack making a (very stylish) appearance, and even that only in the final scenes. Still, I think that was the right choice – okay, perhaps Pinkie could have given Mrs Cake a hoof with the baking, but that might have lent the episode an excessively madcap feel and taken away from some of the sweetness.
Scootaloo is really, really not convinced |
Since I'm on the subject of animation bonuses, I have to touch on the one that's got everyone talking – whether they noticed it at the time or not. After all these years, we finally have an unambiguous same-sex relationship on screen, not just mentioned on Twitter as a "That's how we saw it" thing. We've followed Lyra and Bon Bon since S1, and I'm sure that's why this moment felt entirely right: not forced, but an organic continuation of the last few years.
Apart from the revelation that Octavia once dated Bulk Biceps, the main other point of order was Granny Smith's two Star Trek references. Mudbriar as Spock seems so perfect that it's a wonder nobody's drawn fanart of him like that before (at least as far as I can find) and the fact that Grand Pear was played by William Shatner surely made the joke irresistible. There was even a little joke in the second reference about how Discord was "probably much the same" in space.
Come on, you didn't think I'd leave this one out, did you? |
Best line: Discord: "Nothing. I thought we were saying each other's names."
Best moment: With apologies to the foreground happy couple, it has to be LyraBon.
Worst moment: What has happened to Mister Cake?
Yays
- Entertaining and highly watchable throughout
- A framing device that worked well
- Big Mac and Sugar Belle were very sweet
- The CMC got another "last" outing and were pretty good
- That background proposal!
- Some very enjoyable callbacks
- The "talking apples" joke was maybe not quite strong enough to run all episode
- The repeated scene repeated too much, which helped make the second act drag a little
I was a little bemused that apparently neither Starlight nor the Mane 6 attended the wedding. And it felt a little odd at first that Mrs Cake joined in the general incompetence, before it was explained she was massively overworked and making uncharacteristic mistakes.
ReplyDeleteBut otherwise, this was a delight, and the last few episodes have really helped season 9 feel like a fitting send off after a bit of a sag.
Also I'm so happy for Lyra and Bon Bon aaaaaaaargh my heart
You gotta figure Starlight probably has way mixed feelings when it comes to her former minions. A conversation between her and Sugar Belle post-wedding would make for a good story!
DeleteI'm not too bothered about the absence of the Mane Six, tbh. With the possible exception of Pinkie through her (possible) family connection, none of the others are especially close to Big Mac. They haven't really interacted all that much in the show.
DeleteFrom start to finish, I actually found myself enjoying this episode far more than I was prepared for. Jumping back between the actual story and these interview segments, the latter reminds me of shows where it shows the cast talking to the camera confessing how their involvement either stirred trouble in the pot or they said one thing but the situation turns out entirely different ('Modern Family' does this rather well, along with a handful of other programs). While I went into this episode not sure of how the story would turn out, suddenly the emotional moments between Big Mac and Sugar Belle, the subtle proposal in the background you'd easily miss if not paying attention, and even that 'Star Trek' nod by Granny... This was actually a better episode than I thought it would be.
ReplyDeleteNow I will admit the story I imagined going into this story was slightly different than what we got. I honestly thought Applejack would be more involved apart from appearing just for the end (Though I love the outfit), how this whole proposal Big Mac was preparing would have an effect on his sister. Like even if she'd be happy he's getting married, what if he decides that he doesn't want to stay in Sweet Apple Acres anymore? What if he and Sugar Belle want to start a new life somewhere else? Would they have time together anymore? While it would've made for a more dramatic story than what we got, in the end I was satisfied with what we did get.
This episode wanted to prove why Big Mac and Sugar Belle were meant to be together, as opposed to other pairings with Cheerilee and/or Marble Pie, and for all intents and purposes it did succeed. Not to mention it was subtle how it ties with 'Perfect Pear' especially at the end as to while proposals may not be perfect and good intentions from your friends may lead to bigger messes, so long as the two are happily together it's all that matters.
As for the whole Lyra and Bon Bon proposal, which is what tons of people are talking about... Congratulations! Some say it's just to make the fans happy, but what matters for me personally... Anything that makes 'them' happy pleases me.
How quickly Scootaloo's aunts are forgotten. :C
ReplyDeleteIs it weird to anyone else that this is the second episode in a row where the conflict could have been lessened if not resolved had Pinkie Pie been there?
Oh, I haven't forgotten Scoot's aunts at all. But the show didn't actually make it unambiguously clear on-screen that they were more than friends. It was very heavily hinted, but they didn't quite go the last step. With LyraBon here, they did.
DeleteNeither have I. There were plenty of hints, they are both Scootaloo's aunts, and they live together. Plus Big Jim did say they were a same-sex couple themselves. Can't argue with that.
DeleteSure. It's in the books anyway, of course. But I think the LyraBon scene is a bigger deal, precisely because it doesn't rely on hints or off-screen staffer comments. It's right out there, in the actual episode, in a way that isn't just a hint, however heavy. :)
Delete'Season 7's "The Break Up Break Down"'.
ReplyDeleteHmm, that episode's in Season 7? Could've fooled me.
But yes, I liked this episode quite a bit, easily my fav since "She Talks to Angel" anyway. Other then the Girls' side of the story being duller and repetitive (and padded) most of the complaints I'd have are more to do with insufficient setup in prior episodes, for this one gives it a heck of a try in relation to its goals. The comedy is rarely more then decent (except that Spongebob-esque naming gag, that was gold both times), but the episode undeniably works quite well, even if it's not exactly a "Top 25 of the show" contender. Unless it is for some people, in which case, more power to you, my friends.
Gah, thanks for catching that! I'll fix it when I'm at a PC again. Let's just say that there are reasons why I've been making a few silly little mistakes recently. Nothing to do with the show or the fandom, and nothing I really want to go into here. But please *do* keep pointing them out -- it is appreciated!
DeleteI think I may be the only person in the universe who never watched SpongeBob and so didn't realise what the scene was nodding to. :P
I *LOVE* this episode! Very funny, cute, and heartwarming. Closes several arcs at once simultaneously and is the perfect sequel to The Perfect Pear. IMO, BMQ is the newest best episode of S9.
ReplyDeleteIt's up there. For me I think "Frenemies" is still my favourite, but I'm not at all surprised that some people do rank this one higher.
DeleteMind if I make the case for it? :P
Deletehttps://mlpforums.com/blogs/entry/24644-why-is-the-big-mac-question-season-9s-newest-best-episode/
You can make any case you want -- it's your post! I still won't change my opinion, though. :P
DeleteI was so glad to see that, when we got to the scene with "Sugar Belle!" "Big Mac!" "DISCORD!", even before Discord said anything, the chat for the stream I was watching erupted with "ROCKY!".
ReplyDelete... even though I still haven't actually watched RHPS myself.
...Every day, in every way, I am reminded that my knowledge of pop culture for this one show is an aberration. :D
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