Showing posts with label art. Show all posts
Showing posts with label art. Show all posts

Tuesday, 31 December 2024

Brave new world?

Edited to add, 2 Jan 2025: For clarity, I do not like the way I think things may be going. This isn't a post saying "Hey guys, we should all stop worrying about this!" It's a rather poorly written post, and that's on me. I'll probably delete it eventually, but I don't want to do so now and pretend I hadn't written it. So it stays up for a bit.

The other day, Equestria Daily ran an editorial/discussion post entitled "What Should EQD Do About AI Art Once It's Indistinguishable?"  and after that brought a large reaction, Sethisto made a further post called "AI Art Filtering On EQD - A Followup".

It made interesting reading. The comments, though... they were a sometimes interesting, occasionally enlightening, but often frustrating read. For a start, some commenters entirely ignored the point behind the initial post: that AI art is not like it was even a year or two ago. While it still makes mistakes, with careful prompting for simple images at least some of those mistakes are now similar to those that human artists make. In other words, if you ban AI images on such grounds, the risk of false positives is pretty high.

Then there's the old chestnut that "AI art is soulless". Meaning what, exactly? Do you think deeply about the human artist behind the picture of flying Scootaloo you just grabbed from Derpibooru? Do you? For every single one of the 6,000 images in your Scootaloo folder? I'm afraid the first response that comes to mind there is "Yeah, right." In many, many cases what consumers think about is the picture itself. Not the human being who made it. I'm afraid I think at least some of this is artists trying to kid themselves into feeling better.

What about the charge that AI just steals artists' work without compensation or permission? Well, let me answer that with a question of my own. Do you get formal permission and pay licensing fees for the pictures of Rainbow Dash you sell online and at conventions? Why don't you? The easy, tempting answer of "Because screw corporations" doesn't really get anyone anywhere, especially as you are probably perfectly happy to go out and buy a bunch of plastic toy ponies and thereby enrich... corporations.

There are a number of people in the EQD comments complaining very stridently that even calling AI images "art" is disgusting and that their creators should be called "plagiarism machines" or some such. All I can say is, good luck with that. The really hard fact, the one you don't want to face, is that the large majority of consumers of your MLP fanart do not give a damn about you as a creator. If they treated every picture with love and respect and deep contemplation, they wouldn't have amassed thousands upon thousands and stuffed them in a PC or cloud folder.

All this applies just the same to us ponyfic writers as well, by the way. If there was a ponyfic out there as satisfying to read as the best of Cold in Gardez or horizon or Cynewulf but the product of an AI large language model, how many of its readers do you think would downvote¹ it purely for where it came from? I'll tell you: a damn sight fewer than already downvote every M/M shipping story, regardless of its literary quality. Most fans would lap it up.
¹ Or the equivalent. I'm assuming here the presence of a host site that did not ban AI-created works.

I think part of the problem here is the same one we see in wider social media: a relatively small number of very vocal people see others of like mind around them and misinterpret this as meaning that most people in general actively agree with them. The EQD comments are the same: most people who collect loads of pictures of Applejack or whoever never go near EQD, and certainly never go to the trouble of creating a Disqus account and actually commenting on posts.

We often congratulate ourselves in this fandom about how creative we are, and to an extent I think that's justified. 150,000 fanfics of a kids' cartoon about magical talking horses is a remarkable achievement. Nevertheless, the majority of people are fairly passive consumers. Most of us creators are a lot of the time, too. And most people are not like the ones who hammer out screeds every time an AI post turns up insisting that AI art has absolutely no worth.

I remember a book I read years ago, a book of imagined letters to and from great figures of history. There's one addressed to William Caxton from an abbot complaining about how Caxton's newfangled printing press is ruining the job prospects of the monkish calligraphers at the monastery. And how much did this stop the, well, soulless printing press displacing the monks in the end? Not at all. As I've said before, AI art is out of the bottle and it's not going back in. However much you complain, however justifiable you feel those complaints, it's still not going back in.

I do think that there will always be a place for human art, and that there will always be people who do care enough to want it. As a music industry analogy, these are the people who expend time and energy on attending live gigs. They're admirable people and musicians love them. But ever since the advent of recorded sound, they have never been the largest group. They'll be the equivalent of the people who go to conventions and commission art. Most people, though, will grab gratefully at that flawed but adorable picture of Apple Bloom created by AICaPone or whatever.

tl;dr? Creators can say "Keep AI out!" as much as they want. The fandom, as a group, isn't likely to listen.

Wednesday, 31 January 2024

No Ponyfic Roundup today, so have a Scootapic

Pony Scootaloo Wing Shrug Dunno by xbi
( CC by 3.0 )
As I said in the footer of last week's Ponyfic Roundup, I'm taking a break from reviews this week. I hope and intend that the next edition will appear in a week's time, on a Wednesday as usual, though life has knocked me about a bit recently (it hasn't stopped yet, either) so I'd better not absolutely promise that. So for today, I'm reviving something I used to do occasionally but haven't done for four years (eep), which is to say posting a Creative Commons-licensed picture I like. Ta-da!

Wednesday, 18 October 2023

Sethisto's EQD editorial on AI art

This turned out to be a very interesting read, which is why I'm writing about it here, albeit saddled with a ridiculously long headline, to wit: The Huge Struggle of Pony Posting in an Era of AI Art, Policing Fake "Artists", and Dealing With the POWER of DALL-E 3. Aaaand breathe. What's particularly interesting about the article is that it recognises just how much AI art has changed in the last year, showing some really quite startling examples. If you remember the Twilight Pokéball stuff from 2022, that's totally old hat now.

As Seth says, it's no longer possible just to assume that AI-created pieces will all have an instantly recognisable style or sheen to them. That was true in 2022: it isn't (at least, isn't necessarily) true any more. Many of the kinds of silly little mistakes it still produces are a) often skimmed over by viewers, and b) also quite often produced by human artists. Plus, as he also says, dishonesty exists in this fandom too: he says there's an AI-created piece posing as a human-created one in his inbox as he types.

The comments section on the EQD post is better than I'd expected too, with many posters coming to the conclusion that the time when you could realistically say, "AI must be kept out of art, full stop" might well already be over. As one person points out, Adobe is powering ahead with AI-enabling Photoshop, and it's not going to be the only graphics software package to do that. I assume, then, that soon just about everyone making computer art will be using AI somewhere along the way unless they put considerable effort into not doing so.

I'm too unwell still to add much of my own, but I did want to flag up the EQD piece as being something worth your time to read.

Tuesday, 21 April 2020

Signal boost: Shu-jeantte

She's been featured on EqD quite a few times, but somehow Chinese artist Shu-jeantte has passed me by until now. (Well, until a few days ago.) Unfortunately she doesn't have anything on a Creative Commons licence, so I can't repost it here, but I assure you a browse of her gallery will be worth your time. This Twilight piece especially caught my eye.

Thursday, 23 January 2020

Applejack's Logan's Day Off

Applejack iPad Portrait by Tsitra360
(CC by-nc-nd 3.0)
I've strained my arm – not sure how – so I want to keep typing to a minimum for a day or so. I hope to be back posting about "Party of One" tomorrow, or at least on Saturday. In the meantime, please enjoy this nice picture of Applejack by Tsitra360.

Friday, 3 February 2017

Quick art post (not mine, I hasten to add!)

Flutter Rock by SambaNeko

I'm feeling pretty grotty at the moment, with a cough that refuses to go away, so I hope you'll forgive me if I confine myself to a cute picture of Best Pony today. (I know, I know, "cute" in connection with 'Shy is usually a redundant adjective.) I hope to post something else this week, but no promises unless I feel a bit better by then. I have been keeping up with reading, though, so whatever happens there'll be a Ponyfic Roundup next Wednesday as usual.

Friday, 29 April 2016

It's Fluttershy Day!

Fluttershy by Camellia (from DeviantArt)
Fluttershy by Camellia. Dec 2015. (CC by-nc-nd 3.0)
Yay! Have a happy Best Pony day, everyone! After all, if you don't, you might make Fluttershy sad – and who'd want to do that? (Also, it's disgracefully long since I got to use the "Fluttershy" tag around here.)

Saturday, 12 December 2015

Book review: The Art of Equestria (Mary Jane Begin)

The Art of Equestria front cover
I suppose a Twilight-themed cover was kind of inevitable
Mary Jane Begin has been best known in the My Little Pony fandom for her Under the Sparkling Sea, a large-format picture book containing a fairly simple text but truly beautiful artwork. A second book in similar vein is due next year, but before that she's brought us The Art of Equestria. This is a substantial tome which can be obtained for £13.71 from The Book Depository, a nice discount from its £18.99 RRP. But is it worth the price? Follow me past the break to find out!

Tuesday, 24 December 2013

Happy Hearth's Warming to you all!

Festive Fluttershy 3 by tall-guy-2552
Festive Fluttershy 3 by tall-guy-2552. Dec 2013. CC by-nc-nd 3.0
Yes indeed, it's that time of the year again! It's really crept up on us this time around, but Fluttershy never misses an opportunity to be kind. I don't know what's in that tiny present she's giving to her songbird friends, but I'm sure it's something that they've always wanted. As for me: amazingly, Louder Yay has now been running for over a year. It's been fun, and a big thank you to everyone who's read any of my ramblings. I certainly hope to continue with this for some time to come. In the meantime, have a very Merry Christmas (or Hearth's Warming!) and I'll be back after the festivities are over. Yay!

Wednesday, 18 September 2013

Ponypic: Scootaloo Milkshake by Scootalo0

Scootaloo Milkshake by Scootalo0, CC by 3.0
Scootaloo Milkshake by Scootalo0, Nov 2012. CC by 3.0
Okay, I know this is hardly an original idea for a picture, but I think it works really well in this case. The fact that it features Best CMC certainly doesn't harm things, and the milkshake just tops it off. Also, yes, the artist's name is a bit on the confusing side! But I suppose you can't have everything. I have a strange hunger for a milkshake myself now. Alberto Frog, where are you? (Yay for obscure retro British TV references...)

Tuesday, 23 July 2013

Ponypic: Fluttershy Top Hat by FrenchyToastyy

Fluttershy Top Hat by FrenchyToastyy, Jun 2012. CC by-nc-sa 3.0
It's been a while since we had a Ponypic in these parts, so here's an excellent pastel painting of everyone's (and that means everyone's, right?) Best Pony, the one and only Fluttershy. I highly recommend you check out this guy's other MLP-related artwork, incidentally: he has a great, distinctive style that I think looks fantastic. This picture is dedicated to a certain someone who told me a little while ago that something else Fluttershy-related "need[ed] more top hats". Well, I hope this is satisfactory, sir! ;)

Wednesday, 27 February 2013

Ponypic: Big Macintosh by Dahtamnay

Big Macintosh by Dahtamnay
Big Macintosh by Dahtamnay, May 2012. CC by-nc-nd 3.0
It's about time we had a Ponypic post again, don't you think? I knew you'd agree with me! This is a really rather awesome picture of everyone's favourite bright red stallion. Big Mac looks almost as though he's been immortalised in a stained glass window here. Well, if even Spike can get one of those, why not him, eh?

Thursday, 31 January 2013

Ponypic: Sweetie Belle, stop camping! by Dori-to

"Sweetie Belle, stop camping!" by Dori-to
Sweetie Belle, stop camping! by Dori-to. CC by-nc-nd 3.0
Just so that no-one can say I never give Rarity any attention, here's an amusing picture by Dori-to — the artist responsible for the brilliant Run CMC shirt. Come on, Gameloft, this is what we want to see in a pony game!

Saturday, 19 January 2013

Ponypic: Scootaloo's Quiz Time by Bloo-Ocean

Scootaloo's quiz time by Bloo-Ocean. CC by-nc-nd 3.0
Scootaloo's quiz time by Bloo-Ocean. CC by-nc-nd 3.0
I won't have much to talk about for a little while, since I've only just seen "Keep Calm and Flutter On" and the Bronies documentary is still being uploaded so I doubt I'll see it until tomorrow. (And that's if Scrnland's servers don't crash...) However, in the meantime, have a nice ponypic of the undisputed (by me, which is what matters around here) Best CMC. The heart-shaped cutout in the desk is a nice touch.

Suggestions for future ponypics are welcome, incidentally, but there are a couple of catches. First, they must (that's must) be either licensed under Creative Commons or already have permission from the artist to be used like this. "I bet X would let you use Y if you asked nicely" is no good; I need things I can use on the spur of the moment. Second, nothing above a PG rating, please! No exceptions.

Saturday, 8 December 2012

Andy Price cover art sells for $6,300

Hmm... this is the third comics-related post I've made in a row! I'll do something about that next time, when I post my review of "Sleepless in Ponyville", but for now I'll stick with the comic. And as the title says, Andy Price's original art for the Mane Six covers has sold for the little matter of $6,300 on eBay in the US. Quite remarkable, and another indication of just how well Price's style has captured many fans' imagination.